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Vyacheslav Potapenko wrote:I’ve seen on F1 on-board cameras with telemetry that f1 drivers on braking touch throttle a little bit. You (f.gek) also mentioned that you use same technic. What is the theory/physics behind that?
I think (not 100% sure) that F1 cars have auto-blip though, so that might complicate matters. I've noticed also that the quicker F1 drivers seem to trail the throttle a smidge for at least some of the braking phase. I'd love to see some telemetry from them (in a little more detail than what FVA showed us).Vyacheslav Potapenko wrote:I’ve seen on F1 on-board cameras with telemetry that f1 drivers on braking touch throttle a little bit. You (f.gek) also mentioned that you use same technic. What is the theory/physics behind that?
Mika, I’d love to see your telemetry! If you don’t mind you can send raw telemetry_dump.nkt and I’ll load it into Race Analysis. This tool is referenced in NetKar FAQ page and it’s pretty easy in use. When I started my simracing career I used FVA and always check my telemetry with ferrari drivers to learn how to drive.
Vyacheslav - if the telemetry program isnt a pain to install, ill send you a comparison lap if you like
Honestly I don’t think that slight throttle can generate any weight transfer. More likely that adding accelerator will start turning wheels if they were locked by heavy brakes.
If you use some throttle, weight moves back (it would be better to say "weight doesn't move forward so fast") and you can avoid locking front tyres or lose the back.
Vyacheslav Potapenko wrote:Honestly I don’t think that slight throttle can generate any weight transfer. More likely that adding accelerator will start turning wheels if they were locked by heavy brakes.
If you use some throttle, weight moves back (it would be better to say "weight doesn't move forward so fast") and you can avoid locking front tyres or lose the back.
I'd agree. You should get the same effect by just ... braking a bit less.
If you are locking the wheels it's because you used too much brakes or because too much weight has been tranferred to the front of the car, so you need to balance it by reducing pressure on brakes or adding a bit of throttle while braking.Vyacheslav Potapenko wrote:
Honestly I don’t think that slight throttle can generate any weight transfer. More likely that adding accelerator will start turning wheels if they were locked by heavy brakes.
Andrea Candini wrote:If you are locking the wheels it's because you used too much brakes or because too much weight has been tranferred to the front of the car, so you need to balance it by reducing pressure on brakes or adding a bit of throttle while braking.Vyacheslav Potapenko wrote:
Honestly I don’t think that slight throttle can generate any weight transfer. More likely that adding accelerator will start turning wheels if they were locked by heavy brakes.
Throttle is used to help stabilyze the car DURING the braking phase (probably not only because of the weight transfer, but it has also something to do with the engine itself), but if you have already blocked your wheels adding some throttle won't make any magic result.
Correct, we were referring to the same thing, I had to be more specific: applying throttle in these situations will help the rear wheels, but won't do anything if your front wheels are already... locked.Martin Hussey wrote:
Yes it does? Obviously only the rear wheels
I think I've heard Martin Brundle say blocked before in commentary, I dunno if he was confused, or blocked is a term thats also used (not by accident)?Martin Hussey wrote:Oh, and not to sound rude or anything, just a little FYI, its locked. Not blocked
M Carey wrote:I think I've heard Martin Brundle say blocked before in commentary, I dunno if he was confused, or blocked is a term thats also used (not by accident)?Martin Hussey wrote:Oh, and not to sound rude or anything, just a little FYI, its locked. Not blocked
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