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    05 May 2011: Laguna Seca

    Post by Andrea Lojelo on Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:14 am



    Sixth race of the Osella Series: Laguna Seca

    Here is the schedule:
    21:00 (GTM+1) Briefing in our Chat
    Qualification: 15 minutes. No restriction on the amount of laps
    Warmup: 5 min (waiting time before the race session)
    Race 1: 9 laps
    Warmup: 5 min (waiting time before the race session)
    Race 2: 27 laps

    Races will be in Full Mode.


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    Re: 05 May 2011: Laguna Seca

    Post by Pena on Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:50 am

    Now I have big, huge, enormous probs with the Laguna track Shocked
    I,ve DL the track and fix from downloads.
    After installing it, I tried to test it, didn't see it in the game???
    Then I decided to do few laps on some other track, that either didn't work out...track wouldn't load.
    Ok, deleted the Laguna folder, tried again other track, loaded, got into pits, but can't do anything nothing opens, pressed esc to exit, esc doesn't work???
    Nothing happens.
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    Re: 05 May 2011: Laguna Seca

    Post by Andrea Lojelo on Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:59 am

    I remember that there was a problem with the installer of this track. I was installing the track in a wrong folder.
    Check where it is installed (maybe you will find laguna seca in the nk installation folder) and move it under {nk folder}\track

    One small request. can you please change your username using your Name Surname?
    you can do it from the profile


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    Re: 05 May 2011: Laguna Seca

    Post by Pena on Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:33 pm

    Hmmm, now it looks like my Nk stopped working, doesn't load any track nomore ::mad::
    Can't understand WHY there's no info, if the track installing is different from normal procedure.
    Looks like I gotto make a new game installation, or maybe then not... think I'm gonna let it collect dust for few years or eternity.

    As for my username, ain't gonna change anything.
    It has been acceptable everywhere else, if that's not OK, you can always delete my account.
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    Re: 05 May 2011: Laguna Seca

    Post by giancarlo graziano on Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:54 pm

    mmmmmmmmmmm...is a lot of modder a,nd different people that create a track for a comunity FREE...sometime some little trouble is coming out , don t forghet still a beta this 1.3
    if you can t istall back... many game avaiable in a net....youknow...
    for a name changing, is only for reconaize us ..in a different officials and not competition we enjoy in our servers....
    is only a SMALL REQUEST..please.... don t be so strong..
    you can use what you like....
    remember nkpro have not so big list of uptade track skins and fix whit out this fantastic comunity.

    hope you don t get more offended ,hope you can found a sistem for fix all...and see you on tracksss.

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    Re: 05 May 2011: Laguna Seca

    Post by Luke Dykstra on Sun May 01, 2011 7:18 pm

    I just tried the link to download laguna from the add on tracker, and the file that comes up for download is an nkpro12patch.exe. That doesnt sound right to me..
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    Re: 05 May 2011: Laguna Seca

    Post by Andrea Lojelo on Sun May 01, 2011 7:19 pm

    don't worry, it's just a wrong file name


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    Re: 05 May 2011: Laguna Seca

    Post by Luke Dykstra on Sun May 01, 2011 7:25 pm

    the file appears to just be a version 1.2 patch for the laguna seca track, but not the track itself.
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    Re: 05 May 2011: Laguna Seca

    Post by Andrea Lojelo on Thu May 05, 2011 9:03 am

    Tonight we will try a new procedure for joining the servers.

    We think that one of the possible cause of the CTD is that someone try to connect to our servers while we are racing creating problems to the drivers inside.


    For this reason we decided not to show the server in the list during our race.


    This will be the procedure:
    1) At the end of the briefing we will announce to JOIN THE SERVER
    2) the server will be, as usual, listed in the server list
    3) We will wait for everyone to join for a maximum of 5 minutes.
    4) We will shut down the server
    5) All drivers should go to chat
    6) We will start up the servers once more and we will announce to JOIN THE SERVER
    7) clicking on your {netkar folder}\nks.exe you will be able to join the server. This is the only way of joining the server, since it will not be listed in the server list.



    NOTE:
    it's important to be on chat in time, otherwise you will not be able to join the server later on.
    tomorrow we will have a shorter briefing. Please join our chat in time (21:00).


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    Re: 05 May 2011: Laguna Seca

    Post by davide zardin on Thu May 05, 2011 11:27 am

    sono contento che stiate cercando di risolvere i problemi avuti con i server, ma la procedura non vi sembra più conplessa del solito.
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    Re: 05 May 2011: Laguna Seca

    Post by Andrea Lojelo on Thu May 05, 2011 12:22 pm

    di sicuro e' piu' complessa, ma non abbiamo altre soluzioni al momento. Non siamo felici di dover usare metodi non convenzionali, ma se questo ci consentira' di avere gare in santa pace, e' un prezzo che dovremo pagare.

    Alla fine si tratta solo di connettersi in maniera normale, tornare il in chat, aspettare che il server venga riconfigurato e riconnettesi usando l'nks.exe.


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    Re: 05 May 2011: Laguna Seca

    Post by Andrea Lojelo on Thu May 05, 2011 6:05 pm

    guys don't forget to update your pitboard with this fix I created.

    This will show the pitboard in the correct place.


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    sfogo costruttivo

    Post by Marcello Gabrielli on Thu May 05, 2011 11:04 pm

    ho contato fino a 10, poi ancora 10, 10, 10 ..... ma non mi è passata

    ho grandissima stima per la crew e per Andrea in primis, ma quanto successo oggi con la nuova procedura è stato veramente difficile da accettare:

    - server up -> ci siamo connessi in 7
    - dopo 1 minuto, siamo riasti io e mosca
    - ci siamo guardati, poi io sono uscito
    - mi sono ricollagato off-line per caricare il setup, max 1 minuto
    - sono rientrato in chat ed ho appreso che non avrei più potuto rientrare in gara quanto avevo perso la configurazione nel nks.exe

    Come me altri sono rimasti gabbati.
    So che le regole sono regole e il tutto è stato fatto per migliorare le cose, ma sarebbe stato meglio se qualcuno della crew, non Andrea che era in gara, avesse gestito la situazione ripetendo la procedura per il gruppo B, per dare a tutti la possibilità di gareggiare.
    Scusate lo sfogo, che questo sia però di insegnamento per le prossime gare: che ci sia qualcuno non in gara che sia in grado di gestire la situazione.

    x Andrea: stima infinita, ma non puoi fare tutto tu. Spero tu capisca che la critica è costruttiva ;-)

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    Re: 05 May 2011: Laguna Seca

    Post by M Waechter on Thu May 05, 2011 11:48 pm

    Andrea, why there / you gave us no sign to the guys in chat (in the second phase before joining via nks.exe) like "and now join by double-click the nks.exe" ?
    I joined chat immedeately after the first sesison was closed, but noone gave a sign when to join the final session.. .
    You were suddenly gone away (already on track) and a few people were still waiting in chat for a sign to join.. / we did not know that somehow the real session had already started for some drivers... .
    I joined with nks.exe just 5 mins before the qualy session was over, which was still enough to do one 'ok-lap'.

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    sorry for this crap in race two -groupB-:
    At first I had very bad starts in both races, because the trick pressing both gear-buttons while in first gear did not work on this track well (moving car on grid), so I had to start from neutral.. which was slower than the other drivers.
    After the very crowded start start in race 2, I lost the car a bit while braking to the first corner, result was that someone crashed behind me with my car.
    Later on the outlap after car got repaired I lost the car in the corkscrew and drove reverse just in the moment someone passed through -> crash again, I'm very sorry for this incident / should have better pressed ESC in this position on track .
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    Re: 05 May 2011: Laguna Seca

    Post by giancarlo graziano on Fri May 06, 2011 12:51 am

    Sorry to all... was a orrible night x all..... can not be a race like this...
    in a server A was more hard ... whit jumping flying car..and more....

    like this we are siriusly neeeddd a fix...before we start back some official event..
    this is my personal opinion.. but I think we don t have enymore fun whit races like this............... Crying or Very sad

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    Re: 05 May 2011: Laguna Seca

    Post by Sergio Marques on Fri May 06, 2011 1:06 am

    In group B, first race was great and the first 4 finished very close, but the second with the pitstop's in this track just became a trap for some of us.

    With the Pit's and Box's at the same place, even if don't to repair the car, when you stop it just start to repair it.

    I had a very small touch with the front of the car in the wall, the still car runs fine, but it was repair as an suspension fix, not very real, impossible to have an suspension trouble with that kind of touch, lost almost 5 min with that repair.

    Thanks to the RSR staff for all their work and all who join.

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    Re: 05 May 2011: Laguna Seca

    Post by M Waechter on Fri May 06, 2011 2:21 am

    Sergio Marques wrote:In group B, first race was great and the first 4 finished very close, but the second with the pitstop's in this track just became a trap for some of us.

    With the Pit's and Box's at the same place, even if don't to repair the car, when you stop it just start to repair it..


    Maybe some did not had installed the new pit-box update Andrea posted before, so everyone had different pit-boxes and some were at the same place because of this.., don't know Rolling Eyes .
    regarding second point: You can switch off "automatic pit-box operations" in NetKar's options, doing that the car does also not get repaired automatically anymore !
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    Re: 05 May 2011: Laguna Seca

    Post by Sergio Marques on Fri May 06, 2011 2:33 am

    M Waechter wrote:
    Maybe some did not had installed the new pit-box update Andrea posted before, so everyone had different pit-boxes and some were at the same place because of this.., don't know Rolling Eyes .
    I installed it.
    M Waechter wrote:

    regarding second point: You can switch off "automatic pit-box operations" in NetKar's options, doing that the car does also not get repaired automatically anymore !
    Yes, this should be the way to go, but most of times we are in no Full mode, so for that way it's fine. Thanks for the advice.
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    Re: 05 May 2011: Laguna Seca

    Post by Andrea Lojelo on Fri May 06, 2011 9:31 am

    Marcello Gabrielli wrote:ho contato fino a 10, poi ancora 10, 10, 10 ..... ma non mi è passata

    ho grandissima stima per la crew e per Andrea in primis, ma quanto successo oggi con la nuova procedura è stato veramente difficile da accettare:

    - server up -> ci siamo connessi in 7
    - dopo 1 minuto, siamo riasti io e mosca
    - ci siamo guardati, poi io sono uscito
    - mi sono ricollagato off-line per caricare il setup, max 1 minuto
    - sono rientrato in chat ed ho appreso che non avrei più potuto rientrare in gara quanto avevo perso la configurazione nel nks.exe

    Come me altri sono rimasti gabbati.
    So che le regole sono regole e il tutto è stato fatto per migliorare le cose, ma sarebbe stato meglio se qualcuno della crew, non Andrea che era in gara, avesse gestito la situazione ripetendo la procedura per il gruppo B, per dare a tutti la possibilità di gareggiare.
    Scusate lo sfogo, che questo sia però di insegnamento per le prossime gare: che ci sia qualcuno non in gara che sia in grado di gestire la situazione.

    x Andrea: stima infinita, ma non puoi fare tutto tu. Spero tu capisca che la critica è costruttiva ;-)

    ciao
    Marcello

    Marcello, mi dispiace molto per ieri. purtroppo sapevamo che la procedura nuova poteva creare qualche disagio e che qualcuno poteva avere problemi e perdere la gara. Abbiamo pensato che sarebbe stato meglio provare questa cosa piuttosto che rischiare un'altra volta di iniziare in 15 e finire in 4.

    capisco anche fabrizio che dice che e' stata annunciata solo una decina d'ore prima della gara. Il punto e' che abbiamo aspettato in chat fino alle 21:20-21:30, e abbiamo spiegato la nuova procedura piu' volte in chat nel briefing.

    Non ho fatto ripartire il server B per non introdurre ulteriore casino su una procedura gia' incasinata! Da quello che leggo e' stato un errore.

    apprezzo molto il tono del tuo post, marcello. Grazie!


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    Re: 05 May 2011: Laguna Seca

    Post by Andrea Lojelo on Fri May 06, 2011 9:36 am

    M Waechter wrote:Andrea, why there / you gave us no sign to the guys in chat (in the second phase before joining via nks.exe) like "and now join by double-click the nks.exe" ?
    I joined chat immedeately after the first sesison was closed, but noone gave a sign when to join the final session.. .
    You were suddenly gone away (already on track) and a few people were still waiting in chat for a sign to join.. / we did not know that somehow the real session had already started for some drivers... .
    I joined with nks.exe just 5 mins before the qualy session was over, which was still enough to do one 'ok-lap'.

    I actually did it, marco. After i shutted down the server I reconfigured the servers, explained once more what you had to do, and said "PLEASE CLICK ON NKS.EXE TO START THE RACE".

    I'm sorry that some of you had problems with this new procedure. I can understand it wasn't that obvious for all.


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    Re: 05 May 2011: Laguna Seca

    Post by M Waechter on Fri May 06, 2011 9:49 am

    Andrea Lojelo wrote:I actually did it, marco. After i shutted down the server I reconfigured the servers, explained once more what you had to do, and said "PLEASE CLICK ON NKS.EXE TO START THE RACE".

    Ok, then I will draw back my criticism Wink. But strange that me (and others too) did not see that message, I think you might have not waited long enough for the guys like me in server B coming back to the chat (seems they were a few moments later in chat again than others out of groupA I think). As the guys out of server B joined the chat you had already finished the explanations (I think so, not sure of course about this assumption).
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    Re: 05 May 2011: Laguna Seca

    Post by Andrea Lojelo on Fri May 06, 2011 9:57 am

    M Waechter wrote: I think you might have not waited long enough for the guys like me in server B coming back to the chat
    Yes for sure. Since some of you "got lost", it means that I had to wait more. My apologize for that.


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    Re: 05 May 2011: Laguna Seca

    Post by Sergio Marques on Fri May 06, 2011 10:50 am

    In groupe B at the first qualify min were just 3 of us in the server, all we find that strange, didn't see why people don't join soon, message was clear.
    I and Marco exit the server and go back to the chat asking if it was something wrong, but in the meanwhile, others arrive.

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    Re: 05 May 2011: Laguna Seca

    Post by Marco Sortino on Fri May 06, 2011 1:42 pm

    Sergio Marques wrote:In groupe B at the first qualify min were just 3 of us in the server, all we find that strange, didn't see why people don't join soon, message was clear.
    I and Marco exit the server and go back to the chat asking if it was something wrong, but in the meanwhile, others arrive.

    I confirm, we were sure that the procedure were exact but just only 3 of us. Moments of panic confused

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    Re: 05 May 2011: Laguna Seca

    Post by Roberto Zanerini on Fri May 06, 2011 6:08 pm

    Per Andrea (hai tutto il mio sostegno morale):
    So che anche altri (IRACEONLINE e RACEDPARTMENT) organizzano gare, sai se anche loro hanno questi problemi?

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