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    Re: 31 Mar 2011: Melbourne

    Post by Matt Dawson on Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:06 am

    Thanks very much Smile

    I'll try it out tomorrow

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    Re: 31 Mar 2011: Melbourne

    Post by Oleg Atiskov on Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:44 pm

    its unbelievible...(((( my inet provider dead at least for 02.04.11 ((( so i cant drive in melbourne.. but i still want to drive in champ. plz dont kick me off from champ... (i was hoping take part in group A.. but now again in group B((
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    Re: 31 Mar 2011: Melbourne

    Post by MikaRaymond on Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:55 pm

    you wont be kicked from the champ Smile

    driving in group A is a bit ambitious considering youre new to the game. i wouldnt recommend it because youll do more harm than good - in the past people who are quite a bit slower just cause problems and other stuff. try to stick to group B until you feel comfortable taking it up to the next level Smile
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    Re: 31 Mar 2011: Melbourne

    Post by Andrea Lojelo on Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:28 pm

    Andrea Lojelo wrote:

    Only for this event the entry list will be announced 1 day before the race based on the drivers allocated at that time. Deadline to publish your allocation is on Tuesday night.

    For the first 2 events all groups will use the same point distribution (RSRPoints_A) for the results.

    groups has defined based with the following criteria:
    - best lap in Bahrain
    - if didn't partecipate at bahrain, classification in ks2 2010
    - if not in bahrain nor ks2 2010, then random Smile

    Fulvio Genova A
    Mika Raymond A
    Clive Melbourne A
    Andrea Lojelo A
    paolo taradash A
    Francesco Ledda A
    Martin A
    Marco Waechter A
    Ulus Ulusalonur A
    marco boni A
    Giancarlo Graziano A
    Manos Iatrou A
    Gaetano Palmisano A
    Nosal Dmitrij A
    Attilio Barba A
    Fabio Grippa B
    Matt Dawson B
    Antonio Lallo B
    Daniele De Gioia B
    Davide Zardin B
    Oliver Camp B
    Luca Malingambi B
    Fortunato Catalano B
    Oliver Kreuer B
    marco dugan B
    Oleg Atiskov B
    Kamran Choudhry B
    Riccardo Taccia B


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    Re: 31 Mar 2011: Melbourne

    Post by MikaRaymond on Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:34 pm

    sorry andrea but youre putting people in group A whom none of us have heard of before? dont you think thats a bit risky?
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    Re: 31 Mar 2011: Melbourne

    Post by Kamran Choudhry on Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:39 pm

    Mika, just let it be Wink
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    Re: 31 Mar 2011: Melbourne

    Post by Andrea Lojelo on Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:44 pm

    as I said groups will be using the same distribution schema, therefore doesn't make difference to be in group A, B or C.

    Hopefully people will behave, and we will have good races.

    From the next race groups will be based on the standing.


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    Re: 31 Mar 2011: Melbourne

    Post by MikaRaymond on Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:55 pm

    Andrea Lojelo wrote:as I said groups will be using the same distribution schema, therefore doesn't make difference to be in group A, B or C.

    Hopefully people will behave, and we will have good races.

    From the next race groups will be based on the standing.

    im not really fussed about the points distribution mate, im just not happy about the fact youre dropping inexperienced / beginners into the group A race where most of the fast guys will all be battling hard for the champ. putting 3 or 4 newcomers in is a silly idea. you know most of us spend quite a bit of time preparing and practising and its almost certain one of them is going to cause an accident, especially on melbourne. this will also cause more pain because its more than likely they dont understand the rules and how to act to different flags and scenarios whereas all the usual group A drivers do. i dont know how anyone else feels but thats what i think.

    not rebelling, just saying.
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    Re: 31 Mar 2011: Melbourne

    Post by Andrea Lojelo on Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:03 pm

    mika it's the same method we used in the last championship, in which we had the championship title assigned at the last race as you might remember Smile


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    Re: 31 Mar 2011: Melbourne

    Post by MikaRaymond on Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:06 pm

    Andrea Lojelo wrote:mika it's the same method we used in the last championship, in which we had the championship title assigned at the last race as you might remember Smile

    lol you fail to see my point mate, ill just shut up now Very Happy
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    Re: 31 Mar 2011: Melbourne

    Post by Kamran Choudhry on Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:12 am

    Is it just one race, or are there two races? And if there are two races how is the grid done for the 2nd race?
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    Re: 31 Mar 2011: Melbourne

    Post by Andrea Lojelo on Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:41 am

    Andrea Lojelo wrote:
    Here is the schedule:
    21:00 (GTM+1) Briefing in our Chat
    Qualification: 20 minutes. No restriction on the amount of laps
    Warmup: 5 min (waiting time before the race session)
    Race 1: 38 laps (25 in case of rain)
    1 race


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    Re: 31 Mar 2011: Melbourne

    Post by Fabio Grippa on Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:19 am

    I will be in group B, that is strange since I'm a fast and stable driver...just in barhain I didn't partecipate to qualify for a crash in the out lap, and the ranking is not working for me there (my best is around 2.42!!!)...I would prefer to be in the group A since we all know each other...
    For example me and Antonio, which won the team championship last here will be both in the group b!!!

    We will accept this kind of regulation, hoping for a clean race and respectufl drivers...

    See you in track

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    Re: 31 Mar 2011: Melbourne

    Post by Fabio Grippa on Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:47 am

    Moreover, if you look at my best time in bahrein race I did 1.36.3, which is 3th best time of the race weekend....last year I finished in the 7th position in the champ...I expected to be in the "A" group...What happened? Is there a mistake?

    Thanks!
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    Re: 31 Mar 2011: Melbourne

    Post by fortunato catalano on Thu Mar 31, 2011 3:35 pm

    Ciao Andrea, ho letto nei vari post che ci sono stati alcuni problemi nel server B nella scorsa gara (anche se unofficial)...

    Visto che sono inserito nel gruppoB volevo sapere gentilmente chi ci sarà nel server B dei RSR per fare da Admin? Grazie
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    Re: 31 Mar 2011: Melbourne

    Post by Vaggelis on Thu Mar 31, 2011 3:43 pm

    I just read that allocations deadline was on tuesday...If i allocate now theres no point? i cant race?

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    Re: 31 Mar 2011: Melbourne

    Post by Antonio Lallo on Thu Mar 31, 2011 3:55 pm

    A B o altro, solo per una gara, ragazzi non perdetevi in queste piccolezze! tongue Fabio, poi in gruppo B teoricamente sei favorito, non capisco quale sia il problema...Comunque, non sò ancora se correrò, nel pomeriggio faccio test, al limite parto dai box e mi metto al mio passo in gara!
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    Re: 31 Mar 2011: Melbourne

    Post by Andrea Lojelo on Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:03 pm

    Vaggelis Theodoridis wrote:I just read that allocations deadline was on tuesday...If i allocate now theres no point? i cant race?
    you can race in group B.


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    Re: 31 Mar 2011: Melbourne

    Post by Andrea Lojelo on Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:04 pm

    fortunato catalano wrote:Ciao Andrea, ho letto nei vari post che ci sono stati alcuni problemi nel server B nella scorsa gara (anche se unofficial)...

    Visto che sono inserito nel gruppoB volevo sapere gentilmente chi ci sarà nel server B dei RSR per fare da Admin? Grazie
    there is no need for an admin. the server is configured to run without any admin


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    Re: 31 Mar 2011: Melbourne

    Post by Andrea Lojelo on Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:12 pm

    Fabio Grippa wrote:Moreover, if you look at my best time in bahrein race I did 1.36.3, which is 3th best time of the race weekend....last year I finished in the 7th position in the champ...I expected to be in the "A" group...What happened? Is there a mistake?

    Thanks!
    In this stage nobody knows how strong is any of us. I've seen that in both group A and B there are strong drivers and less experienced.
    further more, even a good driver can do mistake, so I don't get what the problem is.

    Both groups will use the same point system, so for the 1st in group A will take the same points of the 1st in group B.

    We just needed to have a criteria to divide us in groups.

    I think it wouldn't be fair for the newcomers to arrange groups like:
    -all good fast guys in groups A
    -all other elsewhere
    even because otherwise in group A would be potentially more complex to get good points, because we know there are a lot of good drivers there.

    In a couple of races groups will be fully based on your real strength.
    If you guys have a better way to determine groups, please write your suggestions here.

    I think it's not fair to be afraid in advance about newcomers.
    In the past excellent drivers joined the champ, and are now fully respected by everyone.
    Give everyone the chance to prove themself.

    If anyone will stick to the rules there will be no problem, in group A and B.

    People that will clearly ignore the rules will be warned, and then banned from the championship if the will do that again.


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    Re: 31 Mar 2011: Melbourne

    Post by MikaRaymond on Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:19 pm

    Andrea Lojelo wrote:
    fortunato catalano wrote:Ciao Andrea, ho letto nei vari post che ci sono stati alcuni problemi nel server B nella scorsa gara (anche se unofficial)...

    Visto che sono inserito nel gruppoB volevo sapere gentilmente chi ci sarà nel server B dei RSR per fare da Admin? Grazie
    there is no need for an admin. the server is configured to run without any admin

    i think there is mate. at least when i have raced on group B before, people didnt have a clue what they were doing and needed some guidance.

    anyway, lets see what happens tonight Smile
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    Re: 31 Mar 2011: Melbourne

    Post by Andrea Lojelo on Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:31 pm

    there are plenty of experienced drivers there also. You can say something Smile


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    Re: 31 Mar 2011: Melbourne

    Post by Fabio Grippa on Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:17 pm

    Antonio Lallo wrote:A B o altro, solo per una gara, ragazzi non perdetevi in queste piccolezze! tongue Fabio, poi in gruppo B teoricamente sei favorito, non capisco quale sia il problema...Comunque, non sò ancora se correrò, nel pomeriggio faccio test, al limite parto dai box e mi metto al mio passo in gara!

    Mah, il problema Antonio è che la passata stagione in gruppo B sono stato messo fuori gioco per circa 2/3 delle volte, in gruppo A non è quasi mai successo....sarebbe un peccato uscire di gara al primo giro per un incidente, dopo tutto l'allenamento e la messa a punto fatta...in piu' ho partecipato al bahrain per essere in gruppo A, ed inspiegabilmente mi trovo nel B, nonostante il terzo miglior tempo (peraltro in gara, visto che ho saltato la qualify!!!).
    Spero di sbagliarmi e di trovare persone corrette e responsabili in qualsivoglia gruppo sarò!!!
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    Re: 31 Mar 2011: Melbourne

    Post by Fabio Grippa on Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:21 pm

    in piu' in B non va poi cosi male, Dugan, Di Gioia, Lallo, Maligambi, Catalano, kreur ed altri sono tutti piloti di esperienza e corretti!!! Very Happy

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    Re: 31 Mar 2011: Melbourne

    Post by Antonio Lallo on Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:53 pm

    Go Fabio, gooo! lol!

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