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    06-03 Aosta Oval

    Post by giancarlo graziano on Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:42 pm

    Sixt event:
    Pre qualy Start:
    Saturday 06 -03 time00:00(GTM+1)
    Pre qualy End:
    Tuesday 09 -03 time 24:00(GTM+1)



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    Re: 06-03 Aosta Oval

    Post by Andrea Lojelo on Sat Mar 06, 2010 1:55 am

    Server for prequalification is up.
    Password on the control center.
    Good luck!


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    Re: 06-03 Aosta Oval

    Post by Clive Melbourne on Sat Mar 06, 2010 4:01 am

    hi.,are you going to link the pre-qul to the rank server?
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    Re: 06-03 Aosta Oval

    Post by Andrea Lojelo on Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:14 am

    I'm sorry Clive, but unfortunately nkRank can't be used this time, since Aosta is not in their DB and GUI, so results will not be shown.

    I will parse the prequalification times once in a while during these days.


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    Re: 06-03 Aosta Oval

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    Re: 06-03 Aosta Oval

    Post by Stephane Migrouille on Sun Mar 07, 2010 1:43 am

    For those who have difficulty to find a setting for oval Aosta, I propose a basic setup. It’s not optimal but just a base. Only 5th and 6th gear on this track.
    megaupload.com HTPBAM4Y

    Edit : C:\nkpro11beta3\cars\Formula2000\setup\aim.ini
    RPM1=5500
    RPM2=5775
    RPM3=6050
    RPM4=6325
    RPM5=6600
    change gear when all the LEDs blink.
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    Re: 06-03 Aosta Oval

    Post by Andrea Lojelo on Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:10 am

    very nice initiative, Stephane! Thanks a lot


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    Re: 06-03 Aosta Oval

    Post by Andrea Lojelo on Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:15 am



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    Re: 06-03 Aosta Oval

    Post by Vitaliano polito on Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:12 pm

    ci dai un aggiornamento tempi andrea
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    Re: 06-03 Aosta Oval

    Post by Vitaliano polito on Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:42 pm

    andrea ma c e un problema nell ultimo aggiornamento dei tempi ?
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    Re: 06-03 Aosta Oval

    Post by Andrea Lojelo on Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:19 pm

    si...e' solo parziale. poi mettero' a posto


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    Re: 06-03 Aosta Oval

    Post by Andrea Lojelo on Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:41 am



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    Re: 06-03 Aosta Oval

    Post by Clive Melbourne on Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:23 pm

    hi , any update on the pre-qul times?
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    Re: 06-03 Aosta Oval

    Post by Vitaliano polito on Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:31 pm

    andrea per favore aggiorni i tempi appena puoi
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    Re: 06-03 Aosta Oval

    Post by Andrea Lojelo on Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:27 am

    Guys in 2 hours we will have the final results. Sorry I haven't been at home all the day.


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    Re: 06-03 Aosta Oval

    Post by Andrea Lojelo on Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:41 am



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    Re: 06-03 Aosta Oval

    Post by Andrea Lojelo on Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:01 am

    Today we tried to determine whether the rolling start was a better option then the standing start.
    We notice that for this particular oval it's acutually better to have a normal start, so tomorrow we will have the usual rules for this track as well, including the FULL MODE.

    The RED ZONE is 1 full lap. Please be careful when cars are close to each other.
    We suggest, especially in the red zone to avoid to be side by side in the first corners. On the first laps with heavy load and low grip and few reference point it's easy to do mistakes.

    Try to be calm and wait for the best moment for overtaking. 50 laps are quite a lot and here is more important to avoid problems than anywhere else.
    Sometimes it's much better to give space in the inside of the corner to a faster car, and then try to get back your position in the next straight with a better corner exit and using your opponent slip stream. Avoid problems, and of course a bit of luck, will be the key to win this race.

    Good luck to everyone.

    Our servers will be opened for some practice before the official race.


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    Re: 06-03 Aosta Oval

    Post by Luigi Robinia on Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:15 am

    Se ho ben capito, sono nel gruppo B Giusto?
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    Re: 06-03 Aosta Oval

    Post by Paul O'Brien on Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:51 pm

    Luigi Robinia wrote:Se ho ben capito, sono nel gruppo B Giusto?
    :s
    I wonder should the penalty given to drivers be a percentage of the total lap rather than a set limit. This would get around the fact that .5 second penalty is particularly harsh for a 38 second lap .. since most laps are about double that or more .
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    Re: 06-03 Aosta Oval

    Post by Andrea Lojelo on Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:08 pm

    We couldn't change the rules at this stage of the championship.

    I think it's really complex to determine the right percentage, though, since difference on times of the pilots depends on the type of track.

    Time differences between pilots depends on the length of the track and how complex it is and it's average speed. On complex circuits good pilots will really make the difference.

    How would you calculate this percentage? based on what? only the 1st pilot time?
    We might consider this for the next championship, but we need something that will work better than the current solution that is easy and works just fine in the 90% of the cases.


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    Re: 06-03 Aosta Oval

    Post by Paul O'Brien on Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:15 pm

    Andrea Lojelo wrote:We couldn't change the rules at this stage of the championship.

    I think it's really complex to determine the right percentage, though, since difference on times of the pilots depends on the type of track.

    Time differences between pilots depends on the length of the track and how complex it is and it's average speed. On complex circuits good pilots will really make the difference.

    How would you calculate this percentage? based on what? only the 1st pilot time?
    We might consider this for the next championship, but we need something that will work better than the current solution that is easy and works just fine in the 90% of the cases.
    Well I understand that you can't change the rules during a championship. But in the case of an Oval one could come up with an alternate penalty. Because its usually such a short track.
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    Re: 06-03 Aosta Oval

    Post by Clive Melbourne on Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:23 pm

    thanks for the reset
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    Re: 06-03 Aosta Oval

    Post by Andrea Lojelo on Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:24 pm

    I agree with you. In case we will use an oval in our next championship (and there is no doubt that will not be this ugly version ::doh:: ) we might define an exception on the general rule for this case.

    Anyway, on this track there are +0.696 between the 1st and the 15th, while at Aviano was +0.864. Not such a big difference, don't you think?


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    Re: 06-03 Aosta Oval

    Post by Paul O'Brien on Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:32 pm

    Andrea Lojelo wrote:I agree with you. In case we will use an oval in our next championship (and there is no doubt that will not be this ugly version ::doh:: ) we might define an exception on the general rule for this case.

    Anyway, on this track there are +0.696 between the 1st and the 15th, while at Aviano was +0.864. Not such a big difference, no?
    I think a lot of that time difference has to do with the fact that people have varying setups for this track and people are not as close to each other as aviano because the aosta oval has many of the drivers scratching their heads(helmets :p).
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    Re: 06-03 Aosta Oval

    Post by Andrea Lojelo on Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:43 pm

    lol!

    So based on this small discussion, you can tell how complex it to set a rule in advance! The good thing of rules is that are valid for everyone.
    Sometimes you are not only in the wrong place at the wrong time (to use Luigi's words), but even on the wrong event! tough luck!
    No offences, Luigi. It's just for laughing!
    And then Luigi, most luckily will manage to get in Group A anyway since he is 17th at the moment (that confirm that he is not so lucky lately. 17 is a bad luck number in Italy!), and Gabriel will not race. So one more driver that will not show up an he will be in!

    By the way, who is J Molina????


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